GTI6 engine conversion
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GTI6 engine conversion
this morning ordered a pair of axle stands from work (so ill have a set of 4 then ).
Started by jacking the car up and removing the front bumper, arch liners, headlight trims, front grille, headlamps, slam panel.
Next was the induction kit out of the way and then the top rad hose disconnected.
So this is how it looks after 2 hours work so far.
Next was the induction kit out of the way and then the top rad hose.
Started by jacking the car up and removing the front bumper, arch liners, headlight trims, front grille, headlamps, slam panel.
Next was the induction kit out of the way and then the top rad hose disconnected.
So this is how it looks after 2 hours work so far.
Next was the induction kit out of the way and then the top rad hose.
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Re: GTI6 engine conversion
Lower rad hose disconnected, engine radiator removed,air con rad removed fans removed, battery disconnected, ecu unplugged, battery box removed, the two main engine/chassis loom plugs disconnected from offside inner wing.
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throttle cable now disconnected, fuel hoses disconnected, the earth under the battery box disconnected from the chassis and a couple of other cables that i could see were connected to the chassis.
so this is how it stands at the moment.
But im unsure if theres anything else to disconnect in the engine bay before put the car on axle stands on blocks so i think thats it for today.
so this is how it stands at the moment.
But im unsure if theres anything else to disconnect in the engine bay before put the car on axle stands on blocks so i think thats it for today.
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is the heater matrix hose the one that goes to the top of the bulkhead i did look at that but havent done it no. saw the clutch cable i think is it the one on the right under the battry box position looks similar to the throttle cable.?
gear linkages thats something i dont have a clue on yet, do i not do dat from underneath.
gear linkages thats something i dont have a clue on yet, do i not do dat from underneath.
racermike- Moderator
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the heater matrix hose usuallye comes from the thermostat housing to the bulkhead. clutch cable will be easy to identify as it should be the only cable coming from an arm on the box also you might have a cable for the speedo wich will be on the box also. linkages can usually get to them from the top or underneath. any other things you need help with give me a shout im no mechanic but i do have a good understanding of it and i did the engine conversion on my 106 myself well with abit of help
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ok well after work 2moro if its dry will do the heater hoses, speedo cable and clutch cable then.
racermike- Moderator
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Re: GTI6 engine conversion
Great progess so far mate!!
Always good to see people getting on with a job
Always good to see people getting on with a job
_Mike_- Central Regional Leader
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Re: GTI6 engine conversion
what ive had an engine in and out and running in 8 hours so your slacking mate
good progress though mate as you have to be careful with the bodywork on her
keep the updates coming
good progress though mate as you have to be careful with the bodywork on her
keep the updates coming
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roland rat wrote:what ive had an engine in and out and running in 8 hours so your slacking mate
8 hours why so long
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haha but you guys know wot ur doin, i make it up as i go along lol.
im putting the bolts and stuff into bags and labelling thrm so i know where they go. and labelling cables/hoses etc. im taking my time coz i dont want to damage/break anything.
im putting the bolts and stuff into bags and labelling thrm so i know where they go. and labelling cables/hoses etc. im taking my time coz i dont want to damage/break anything.
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racermike wrote:haha but you guys know wot ur doin, i make it up as i go along lol.
im putting the bolts and stuff into bags and labelling thrm so i know where they go. and labelling cables/hoses etc. im taking my time coz i dont want to damage/break anything.
good approach mate
i was lucky while doing the last engine swap on my mates gti-6 as i had my 306 to check to if it didnt look right
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well if ash/welsh pug fancy coming down plenty of biscuits and tea available for the 9/10th august to help me drop the engine out i wouldnt say no lol. holpfully the 16/17th then dropping the gti6 in. then feel free to come down btw.
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Re: GTI6 engine conversion
Some good progress so far!
I too took the same approach of labeling every bolt/nut and pipe I took off when I replaced the headgasket.
It was the first big job Id done on my car, and i too have no previous mechanical experience.
The first time I spent ages on it, the car was off the road for some time, just labeling, taking it really slow just to be sure. But then I ended up doing it again in a couple of hours!
Its the best way to learn!
I too took the same approach of labeling every bolt/nut and pipe I took off when I replaced the headgasket.
It was the first big job Id done on my car, and i too have no previous mechanical experience.
The first time I spent ages on it, the car was off the road for some time, just labeling, taking it really slow just to be sure. But then I ended up doing it again in a couple of hours!
Its the best way to learn!
Re: GTI6 engine conversion
would love to mate but ive got to fit the new bonnet on the china plus there's a certain 309 that needs picking up
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roland rat wrote:would love to mate but ive got to fit the new bonnet on the china plus there's a certain 309 that needs picking up
priorities first
Re: GTI6 engine conversion
ok so this evening i have taken the clutch cable off the gearbox, unplugged the speedo cable, disconnected PAS hose, disconnected heater matrix hoses, taken two gear linkage roads off but the larger one i cant get at very easy to take off so will do that from underneath i think.
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i think this is all i have to do now before im ready to lift the engine out. correct me if ive missed anything.
Disconnect the top hose on the power steering pump from the reservoir. (DONE). Unbolt the connector to the high pressure hose at the subframe join leaving this pipe connected to the pump and the engine.
Remove the brake master cylinder and remove the hose going from the cam driven pump to the brake servo.
Next up unbolt the cat from the manifold and disconnect the lambda sensor at the black and red conector.
remove both driveshafts from the gearbox. There are 2 routes here. Route 1 is to fully remove both shafts in the usual way completely from the vehicle. Route 2 is to release the wishbone ball joint and just pull the shaft free of the box leaving it still bolted into the hub (tie them up to the underside of the car to keep the joint together).
any more advice appreciated.
Disconnect the top hose on the power steering pump from the reservoir. (DONE). Unbolt the connector to the high pressure hose at the subframe join leaving this pipe connected to the pump and the engine.
Remove the brake master cylinder and remove the hose going from the cam driven pump to the brake servo.
Next up unbolt the cat from the manifold and disconnect the lambda sensor at the black and red conector.
remove both driveshafts from the gearbox. There are 2 routes here. Route 1 is to fully remove both shafts in the usual way completely from the vehicle. Route 2 is to release the wishbone ball joint and just pull the shaft free of the box leaving it still bolted into the hub (tie them up to the underside of the car to keep the joint together).
any more advice appreciated.
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Re: GTI6 engine conversion
WELSHPUG wrote:don't need to remove the master cylinder.
ok thanks for that. as i had no idea how to do this would have to refer to the trusty haynes.
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after i finished work today started to get the car off the ground.
front wheels off next b4 i forget lol.
I still need to get the front up more. to make it easier to get under the car.
front wheels off next b4 i forget lol.
I still need to get the front up more. to make it easier to get under the car.
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Wont be long now till the engines out
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